How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Mysterious fast radio bursts help astronomers pinpoint cosmic ‘missing’ matter - CNN

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Why didn't people like the Game of Thrones ending?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

What are some examples of a threat to democracy in India?

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Two of my family members have recently converted to Islam and have brought shame on my family. How do I get them back into the fold of Hinduism?

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

How do you find out who your handler is as a targeted individual?

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

What's the most sordid activity you've ever seen or heard about at a bachelorette party?

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

What are the defining characteristics of woke liberals and conservatives in the United States?

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

What are women's true thoughts and feelings on bestiality?

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Why do so many 18 to 29-year-old men struggle in dating?

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

What discoveries in AI research have changed our understanding of intelligence evolution?

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Why is there so much hate against black people?

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

Should Pete Rose's record as the all-time hits leader be recognized and celebrated?

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Why didn't my ex fight for our relationship? He gave up so easily.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

From 1 to 10, how dark is the Naruto fandom? Why?

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

NOW…

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Kabir (a weaver)

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

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Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I am like a fish out of water,

CONCLUSION:

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Sain (a barber)

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

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That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Now here in this verse

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

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My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

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To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?